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Lord of Badenoch John “The Red” Comyn

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Lord of Badenoch John “The Red” Comyn

Birth
Death
10 Feb 1306
Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland
Burial
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Succeeded his father, the Black Comyn, to become Lord of Badenoch.
His mother was Eleanor Balliol sister of the King John Balliol
His parent's marriages greatly strengthen his royal claims.
By his birth he felt naturally attached to the Baliols, and as naturally adhered to the English King Edward I, so long as Edward I formed the greater support of the Baliols.

John Comyn married an English noblewoman of high and almost regal rank,
Johanna the daughter of William de Valence, the Earl of Pembroke.
After the crowning of Baliol in 1292 matters did not long remain quiet between Scotland and England, and Comyn joined the patriotic army which invaded the latter country

William Wallace won the battle of Stirling Bridge,
Robert the Bruce had the victory at Bannockburn
The Red Comyn had three victories in one day at the Battle of Roslin

At the beginning of November 1302 Edward I of England sent John de Segrave north, giving him the governorship of Berwick and the guardianship of Scotland.
Segrave marched north not expecting to fight the Scots, whom he thought unable to rise against him, but to destroy the country.
To that end he divided his army into three bodies, which marched at some distance from each other in order to cover more ground
His idea that ther was no danger caused him to march in a careless manner, and without posting a guard in front of the armies to report the positions of his enemies.
He unexpectedly met them near the muir Roslin five miles from Edinburgh.

Segrave was too far in front of the other armies to receive any assistance, the Scots army commander by The Red Comyn, and the noted patriot Sir Simon Fraser of Tweendale attacked him without loss of time, and immediately put him to rout.

The nearest of the armies hearing their general was attacked rushed to his relief, but not being able to get there in time, were also defeated.

Though the Scots were victorious in these two engagements, it was not without difficulty and loss.
Their wounded were many, and their troops tired and were about to take a rest when they saw the third body of the English army advancing to attack them.
This sight put them into such a disorder that they would have fled, if the encouragement of their generals had not revived their courage.
This last battle was the sharpest of the three.
The English angered with the loss of their countrymen, and the Scots, encouraged by their too victories fought a considerable time with equal animosity; but the Scots had the advantage at last, and routed their enemies.

On the 10th of February in 1305 the Red Comyn and Robert the Bruce met at the Justine at Ayre in Dumfries to discuss their differences.
They retired to the Church of the minorities (which had been built by Comyn's Grand Mother, the famous Devorgilla heiress to the ancient lords of Galloway).
There for all the world knows, question, reproach hand retort ended in Bruce losing his temper, drawing his dagger and stabbing the Red Comyn in the throat below the high altar at Greyfriars Kirk in Dumfries.
Without waiting to see if the wound was mortal, Bruce rushed to the door of the sacred building, where he met his friends, Kirkpatrick of Closeburn, and James de Lindsay two powerful barons, who astonished at seeing their leader with a bloody weapon in his hand, asked Bruce what had occurred.

Scarcely able to speak, Bruce answered, "Bad tidings, I doubt I have slain the Red Comyn".
"Doubtess thou" sain Kirkpatrick, 'I'll mak siccar" (I'll make sure).
With these words, the two barons hastily disappeared through the door and dispatched the wounded Comyn, at the same time murdering Sir Robert Comyn
These murders were committed by the very altar of the Church of Dumfries, a reprehensible deed of which Bruce ever after felt regret, and filled every heart with horror.
Bruce believed himself to be punished with leprosy as a result.

The battle of Bannockburn put an end to the struggle for conquest on the part of England, and ensured independence on the part of Scotland.
It has thrown such a halo around the memory of Bruce that we can scarcely avoid disliking all his enemies.
This feeling extends pretty generally to the Red Comyn, infect to the whole clan of Comyn, without even examining whether their memory is justly entitled to that infamy with which it is perhaps too generally associated.
Our sympathy for the fate of the Red Comyn is somewhat increased when we recollect that both his father and himself were frequently found fighting with Wallace.
Succeeded his father, the Black Comyn, to become Lord of Badenoch.
His mother was Eleanor Balliol sister of the King John Balliol
His parent's marriages greatly strengthen his royal claims.
By his birth he felt naturally attached to the Baliols, and as naturally adhered to the English King Edward I, so long as Edward I formed the greater support of the Baliols.

John Comyn married an English noblewoman of high and almost regal rank,
Johanna the daughter of William de Valence, the Earl of Pembroke.
After the crowning of Baliol in 1292 matters did not long remain quiet between Scotland and England, and Comyn joined the patriotic army which invaded the latter country

William Wallace won the battle of Stirling Bridge,
Robert the Bruce had the victory at Bannockburn
The Red Comyn had three victories in one day at the Battle of Roslin

At the beginning of November 1302 Edward I of England sent John de Segrave north, giving him the governorship of Berwick and the guardianship of Scotland.
Segrave marched north not expecting to fight the Scots, whom he thought unable to rise against him, but to destroy the country.
To that end he divided his army into three bodies, which marched at some distance from each other in order to cover more ground
His idea that ther was no danger caused him to march in a careless manner, and without posting a guard in front of the armies to report the positions of his enemies.
He unexpectedly met them near the muir Roslin five miles from Edinburgh.

Segrave was too far in front of the other armies to receive any assistance, the Scots army commander by The Red Comyn, and the noted patriot Sir Simon Fraser of Tweendale attacked him without loss of time, and immediately put him to rout.

The nearest of the armies hearing their general was attacked rushed to his relief, but not being able to get there in time, were also defeated.

Though the Scots were victorious in these two engagements, it was not without difficulty and loss.
Their wounded were many, and their troops tired and were about to take a rest when they saw the third body of the English army advancing to attack them.
This sight put them into such a disorder that they would have fled, if the encouragement of their generals had not revived their courage.
This last battle was the sharpest of the three.
The English angered with the loss of their countrymen, and the Scots, encouraged by their too victories fought a considerable time with equal animosity; but the Scots had the advantage at last, and routed their enemies.

On the 10th of February in 1305 the Red Comyn and Robert the Bruce met at the Justine at Ayre in Dumfries to discuss their differences.
They retired to the Church of the minorities (which had been built by Comyn's Grand Mother, the famous Devorgilla heiress to the ancient lords of Galloway).
There for all the world knows, question, reproach hand retort ended in Bruce losing his temper, drawing his dagger and stabbing the Red Comyn in the throat below the high altar at Greyfriars Kirk in Dumfries.
Without waiting to see if the wound was mortal, Bruce rushed to the door of the sacred building, where he met his friends, Kirkpatrick of Closeburn, and James de Lindsay two powerful barons, who astonished at seeing their leader with a bloody weapon in his hand, asked Bruce what had occurred.

Scarcely able to speak, Bruce answered, "Bad tidings, I doubt I have slain the Red Comyn".
"Doubtess thou" sain Kirkpatrick, 'I'll mak siccar" (I'll make sure).
With these words, the two barons hastily disappeared through the door and dispatched the wounded Comyn, at the same time murdering Sir Robert Comyn
These murders were committed by the very altar of the Church of Dumfries, a reprehensible deed of which Bruce ever after felt regret, and filled every heart with horror.
Bruce believed himself to be punished with leprosy as a result.

The battle of Bannockburn put an end to the struggle for conquest on the part of England, and ensured independence on the part of Scotland.
It has thrown such a halo around the memory of Bruce that we can scarcely avoid disliking all his enemies.
This feeling extends pretty generally to the Red Comyn, infect to the whole clan of Comyn, without even examining whether their memory is justly entitled to that infamy with which it is perhaps too generally associated.
Our sympathy for the fate of the Red Comyn is somewhat increased when we recollect that both his father and himself were frequently found fighting with Wallace.


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